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Introducing Torsten Jinsup Yun

Just to spite me for saying that I didn't think he would come on his due date, Baby #2 made a valiant last ditch effort Sunday. Sporadic, mild contractions in the afternoon and evening were followed by my water breaking around 10:40pm. Nothing for a half-hour, then quicker, stronger contractions over the next hour, and we rushed off to the babysitter's and the hospital.

After 15 minutes of evaluation by the midwives and 5 minutes of pushing, we were blessed with another boy!

Torsten Jinsup Yun
Born 1:33am on Monday 22 June
3.81 kg / 8 lbs 6 oz
Lots of black hair and a Yun nose!
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Torsten was my grandfather Palmquist's name (changed to Thomas when he immigrated from Sweden). Jinsup is made up of "Jin" (진/眞) meaning truth, faithfulness or real, and "Sup" (섭/燮), the generational family name he shares with his brother and cousins, meaning harmony or flame.

We're all doing great, Aldus and Maui included. More photos and updates to come.

Editor's note: Bad Umma! I got my Chinese characters mixed up in the original post. They've been updated to reflect the correct syllables. I will blame sleep deprivation.

Posted on June 25, 2009 in Daily Update, Infertility and stuff, Love & Life, Pregnancy, Torsten | Permalink | Comments (3)

Update from after Paris

Yes, I've been lax about posting lately. There was the visit from my family for Thanksgiving (good!), the trip to Palermo with the Yuns over Christmas (good!), and since the New Year I've been busy busy busy preparing for this trip for Paris - far more so for the e-VLBI demonstration we gave at the opening ceremony for the International Year of Astronomy last week than for the couple days of sightseeing we got this weekend.

Charles spent Thursday and Friday last week, then Monday and Tuesday this week, chaperoning Aldus around Paris, entertaining him at the Louvre and elsewhere, and trying to break him of his new habit of NOT giving kisses to pretty foreign girls who request them. His flirtation with a handful of French girls at a cafe Monday seems to be a step in the right direction.

There are two main reasons I feel particularly compelled to [begin a] post today rather than wait for...say...another six weeks or so as has become habit.

1. INAUGURATION. I can't wait to get out of this IAU Symposium this afternoon (don't tell my boss!) to go find a place where we can watch Obama sworn in. Yes, I will likely find myself crying in public, but I think people will understand. [Addendum: Charles and I both missed the swearing-in but met up to catch the speech. Unfortunately for us it was being dubbed over in French and was difficult to hear the original audio over the French. I cried anyway. And somehow managed to make Charles a little teary-eyed as well.]

2. I suppose I should make some sort of more formal announcement to those we haven't told already: Aldus will be getting a little brother or sister in June. Woo hoo! I will admit I was feeling quite shell-shocked when I found out at the end of October that I was pregnant, but most of that stemmed from first-trimester exhaustion and trying to keep up with Aldus. Now that my energy and appetite are back, the thought of trying to keep up with a newborn and a two year-old seems much more manageable. And in the past few days I've started to feel the baby move! Every woman who wants it should be able to get that feeling. There's nothing like it.

2009 is going to be a big year.

Posted on January 22, 2009 in American culture, Current Affairs, Infertility and stuff, Pregnancy, Travel | Permalink | Comments (4)

Patient Voices: Infertility

I stumbled upon this series of audio commentaries on the New York Times today. If you have 10 minutes, it's definitely worth a listen. I found myself nodding along in agreement with the things that every.single.one. of these women talked about - about how discovering you're infertile is a process, how the choice with how to proceed (infertility treatments, adoption, living childless or childfree) is different and unique for every couple, how being "infertile" (or subfertile, or identifying as infertile) doesn't go away once you have a child...everything! I hope you'll give it a listen.

Posted on June 10, 2008 in Infertility and stuff | Permalink | Comments (1)

On this date in history...

Is it September 11 again already? Yes, I'll always remember this day.

  1. Yes, of course because of that. But so much the better...
  2. Happy Anniversary, Bryan and Tracey!
  3. And last but very not least, it was one year ago today that I woke up, took my temperature, noticed that it hadn't dropped like it was supposed to and decided to take a pregnancy test. It had expired six months earlier, but what the hell. And it was positive. I'd never seen that before! And here we are one year later with a beautiful, healthy, happy little boy.

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Posted on September 11, 2007 in Aldus, Daily Aldus, Infertility and stuff, Love & Life | Permalink | Comments (2)

p.s. What (not) to say...

I should also mention that I was pretty lucky that I didn't have to suffer from too many of these comments when I told people about our struggles. So, dear friends and family, please don't feel as though you need to recall conversations we've had and worry about whether you may or may not have offended me. It's just that I still know too many women dealing with this, and I hear some of the things said to them and I want to make it better.

I'm just trying to do a little educating. We've probably all dealt with difficulties and have had people respond in less than stellar ways (including not responding at all). A cancer diagnosis, the unexpected loss of a parent, child or spouse, depression, alcoholism, struggles with weight loss, the loss of a job... It's hard to understand what it's like to go through these things or how to react unless you've gone through them yourself.

So let me also say that I hope when I say something inappropriate that you will educate me, too.

This post was written while indulging in homemade chai.

Posted on May 16, 2007 in Infertility and stuff | Permalink | Comments (0)

What (not) to say to someone struggling with infertility

Shame on me. I should have posted this before Mother's Day. In fact, I should have posted something on this blog LONG before Mother's Day, but I never felt eloquent enough to do the topic justice. But not posting because of a lack of eloquence is rather cowardly.

And Mother's Day would have been a perfect opportunity, because in spite of attempts to celebrate with their extended families and to celebrate their own mothers, many many women who are unable to have children dread the day as yet one more painful reminder of what they don't have. They'll put on a brave, smiling face on the outside but are often really hurting inside. So I'm posting this here now because I know there are a lot of people following this blog to keep up with our lives in the Netherlands and anxiously awaiting with us for the birth of our child. And it's important to me that I don't enter motherhood leaving behind this topic that in many ways has been at the forefront of my life for the past four years.

Anyway, the truth of the matter is that there's a lot of ignorance out there about how to react when a woman (or a man or a couple) tells you she's dealing with infertility. And the comments, almost always meant to be supportive or helpful, often have the opposite effect. And too often when these things are said to us (and I say "us" because even though I'm no longer in the trenches, I still consider myself among the ranks), we infertiles or subfertiles don't know how to react or what to say in response. Too often we don't say anything because we don't want to offend the offender. All too often we know that the person will become defensive and won't hear what we're trying to say. And so the person never even learns that they've hurt our feelings or made things worse.

The fact that I seem to have overcome my infertility doesn't mean that I no longer think about this. On the contrary, I'm now afraid that people will hold up Charles and I as an example -- poster children for overcoming infertility -- and have us in mind when they say some of these unintentionally insensitive things to other women or couples who are struggling.

And so I offer you:

What not to say to someone dealing with infertility:

1. "You just need to relax," or "Take a vacation."

This is probably the most frequent "advice" given to a friend, daughter or sister who says she's having trouble getting pregnant, but it's a falsehood. Infertility, even unexplained infertility, is a medical condition. Just like a lump in the breast, it will not go away on its own by trying to ignore it. A romantic getaway to Hawaii will not improve a husband's sperm count. A relaxing massage will not heal endometrial scar tissue in a uterus or fallopian tubes. Trying not to think about getting pregnant will not miraculously restore a hormone imbalance. By learning about how her body is supposed to work, charting cycles and/or seeing an OB/GYN or reproductive endocrinologist, a woman can diagnose the cause of the infertility and get treatment for it. This is much more useful in overcoming infertility than attempting to ignore it.

(Also, please don't ever say that someone just needs to move to the Netherlands! I know some people may believe that this change in our lives is the reason we were able to get pregnant. That focusing on something other than trying to conceive was able to relax us enough to make a difference. The fact of the matter is that moving here was one of the most stressful things we've ever done! Quitting our jobs (I'd only had mine for a couple months); trying to sell our house in a month without taking too big a loss; saying goodbye to friends and family; sorting through our belongings to decide what to ship, store or sell; figuring out how to relocate Maui; trying to learn Dutch; trying to find a place to live here; and all of this without even knowing whether our residency or work permits would be approved... And those were just the things that stressed us out before we got to the Netherlands! We conceived BabYun about a month after we arrived, and I can guarantee you that the "fresh Dutch air" could not have worked its magic in that amount of time!)

2. "Don't worry. It'll happen."
This is almost the same as #1, but with the added bonus of trying to reassure the woman that she will achieve pregnancy someday. But can you predict the future? The sad truth is that it might not happen. There's no such promise or guarantee, and the infertile woman already knows that.

3. "Have you considered adopting?" (May or may not be coupled with "There are a lot of children out there who need good homes.")
If a woman confides in you that she is struggling with infertility, trust me that she has already considered all options available, including adoption. If she doesn't say explicitly that she's considering it, then she has probably already ruled it out as an option for her personally - at least for now. She doesn't need you to point out all the options available to her.

As for suggesting she adopt because there are lots of kids out there who need good homes, consider for a moment whether or not you yourself have considered adoption or whether you prefer to have children of your own. Infertile women resent the suggestion that because they may not have the option of having biological children, that the responsibility for finding homes for orphans should fall on them.

4. "As soon as [insert couple's names here] adopted, they got pregnant."
First, consider how many adoptive parents out there haven't gotten pregnant on their own. Again there's no guarantee that anything will give a couple the biological child they so desperately want.

Second, what you are suggesting is that adoption should be used as a means to achieve the end of having one's own biological children. How fair is that to the adopted child?

5. "God has another plan for you."
This is a really tough one, because you're likely trying to be reassuring. But first consider that the woman you're trying to help may not believe in God or may not have the same beliefs that you do. (And religious beliefs are a conversation to be had completely separate from the one this woman wants to have with you about her infertility.) In that case she's likely to dismiss this suggestion, which makes it not a very helpful suggestion, so don't bother.

Second, a woman who is confiding in you because she is struggling with infertility obviously really wants to have a child of her own. She doesn't want to hear that her desire isn't a valid one or she somehow doesn't deserve to have her desires and dreams fulfilled. That's not very reassuring, so what's the point of saying it?

6. "This is God's way of saying you're not supposed to be a parent."
Congratulations, asshat, you've just insulted the friend or daughter who's come to you for help. (Yes, people who think they're trying to be helpful really say this with shocking frequency.) Do not EVER say this to a woman who's confiding in you about her infertility, or be prepared to defend yourself against a punch in the nose.

7. "Maybe you should lose some weight."
First, what the infertile woman hears is, "It's your own fault" or "You're broken and you're fat."

Second, she's probably already aware of the fact that her weight may be a factor in her infertility. (It might not!) Regardless, she has probably already discussed this with her doctor, so she doesn't need you to point it out. In fact, she may even be battling with a doctor who thinks that weight loss will be a magic bullet for her and will refuse to look at other causes that may be contributing to the infertility.

What SHOULD you say to a woman struggling with infertility?

1. "I'm so sorry you're going through this."
This is the best and most important response you can give!

2. "I'm here for you whenever you need to talk about it. Let me know if you want me to bring it up, or if you would rather bring it up yourself."
Your friend wants to know that she can turn to you when she needs to talk, but there will be bad days when you might catch her off-guard if you bring it up. (Her period might have just shown up, she might have gotten a negative result on a pregnancy test that morning, or perhaps she's gotten discouraging results on diagnostic tests, etc.)  These are the days when she probably really won't want to talk about it. It's better to let her bring up the subject in her own time and on her own terms; let her know that you're there to listen when she wants to talk.

4. "What can I do for you?"
Your friend might just want to know whether or not she can talk to you when she's feeling frustrated or when she learns anything new about her condition. She may even need your help to drive her to or from appointments.

I didn't want this post to come off as a preachy lecture. But I've heard of some truly insulting and insensitive things said to infertile women and hope that this will help prevent even a few occasions of that happening.

Thanks for reading!!!

This post was written while listening to Michigan Radio streamed online. I love Morning Edition!

Posted on May 16, 2007 in Infertility and stuff | Permalink | Comments (1)

Happy New Year!

Yesterday was the first day of the lunar new year, The Year of the Pig. Happy New Year!

Some believe this is a "Golden Pig" year, which may only come around every 600 years and is an especially good year in which to have a baby and the prospect of wealth. To be fair, there's some debate as to whether or not it's really a "Golden Pig" year. Some believe that's just being said for commercialization purposes. But in general, any Year of the Pig is supposed to be a good year to have a baby.

We celebrated the new year with tuek guk, a traditional Korean new year's soup. If we were with Charles' family, we would bow to them and pay our respects.

Charles was also born in a Year of the Pig, so he and the baby will be the same sign which is supposed to be really good. He and I are almost exactly 4 years apart, which means we're also supposed to be an excellent match for each other. When we started dating and I first met his halmoni (grandmother), who was very conservative, everyone thought that she would really dislike me because I wasn't Korean. But when she learned that we were such a great match in terms of the horoscope (and probably also when I demonstrated that I was learning some Korean, I could write Korean and that I was learning Korean traditions), she was thrilled and wanted us to get engaged right away.

Anyway, of course we're over the moon to be having a baby at all. Knowing that halmoni, who died just a few months after I met her, would also be thrilled and smiling down on us makes it extra special. Instead of allowing myself to be bitter about the three years we spent unsuccessfully trying to conceive, and the money, energy and tears wasted on tests, medication, doctor's appointments and especially IVF, I'll think about her and about how fortunate we are to be having a baby in 2007.

Posted on February 19, 2007 in Infertility and stuff, Love & Life, Pregnancy | Permalink | Comments (0)

Happy "Wish-day" to me!

Charles and I were in Ireland a year ago. He had a meeting for a couple days in Dublin, extended his itinerary, I tagged along, and we made a great vacation out of it!

It was one year ago today, during one of Charles' meeting days, that I took a little side trip down to Dalkey with Randy, the son of one of Charles' colleagues. We walked down through the village, along the water, up through a residential area and up Killiney Hill.

At the top of Killiney Hill is an obelisk and a "wishing stone." Supposedly if one walks around each of the levels of the stone and then makes a wish at the top while looking toward Dalkey village, the wish will come true.

I had a momentary internal debate about my wish. It was fruitless to wish for something that I knew wouldn't come true, so why bother? But then again that's what wishes are for, aren't they? No one will ever criticize you for wasting a wish. So I wished.

Randy had gotten a head-start on me, and since I accidentally did one of the levels twice (oops!), he was already back on the ground and taking a photo of the stone just as I was making my wish. He said he'd send it to me if my wish came true.

Well...one year later... I've got the photo.

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Posted on January 19, 2007 in Infertility and stuff, Pregnancy, Travel | Permalink | Comments (4)

Speaking of privacy...

(Today's Tip of the Day had me thinking about this.) Not a single person here has asked us about kids. About whether or not we already have them. About whether or not we plan to have them. Nothing.

If we had just moved to a new place in the States, I'm pretty certain that the "Where are you from?" question would be immediately followed by "So, do you have kids?"

And it's not that I even mind being asked the question. (I used to mind it, but not anymore.) It's a pretty natural thing to ask. I just think it's an interesting cultural difference.

Posted on August 04, 2006 in Infertility and stuff | Permalink | Comments (3) | TrackBack (0)